"So I say, 'Travis, you're almost 30-years-old. Have you thought about what you're going to do with your life? And he says, 'Music.' So I ask him how many shows he's played in the last 5 years. And he says, 'Zero.'"
"Yeah, but how many novels have you written in the last 5 years?"
"But when asked about my future, I don't go around saying, 'Writing.' Plus, I have a job, a savings account, and a roof over my head."